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	<title>Comments on: “I don’t see anything but a bunch of junk thrown together. And he calls that art!”</title>
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		<title>By: cshteynberg</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely fascinating video! On a side note, outside of the Back Seat Dodge ’38 bits, I especially like the part where the guy says, &quot;Everything&#039;s wired--nothing&#039;s really people anymore.&quot; He&#039;s followed by a man who talks about going to war in a machine era in which, &quot;a machine finds the enemy, and a machine shoots down the enemy, and you just sit there and watch the buttons.&quot;

However, I think you understate what&#039;s going on in Back Seat Dodge ’38. It&#039;s not a depiction of two young people making out, it&#039;s of them having sex. The transparency of the chicken wire man puts the focus on the woman. The hand placement of the man, the foot placement of the girl--it all suggests that there may be a struggle or at least some anxiety on on her part. While it&#039;s not a piece that shocks most people now, it still makes me feel uncomfortable. It&#039;s ambiguous--I don&#039;t know how either party feels, and I feel strange for spying on them. I think it&#039;s important to realize that while there was some reactionary response in the 60s to this work, that was partly because Kienholz&#039;s brilliant work does in fact invoke strong (and often disturbing) emotional responses, even today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely fascinating video! On a side note, outside of the Back Seat Dodge ’38 bits, I especially like the part where the guy says, &#8220;Everything&#8217;s wired&#8211;nothing&#8217;s really people anymore.&#8221; He&#8217;s followed by a man who talks about going to war in a machine era in which, &#8220;a machine finds the enemy, and a machine shoots down the enemy, and you just sit there and watch the buttons.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I think you understate what&#8217;s going on in Back Seat Dodge ’38. It&#8217;s not a depiction of two young people making out, it&#8217;s of them having sex. The transparency of the chicken wire man puts the focus on the woman. The hand placement of the man, the foot placement of the girl&#8211;it all suggests that there may be a struggle or at least some anxiety on on her part. While it&#8217;s not a piece that shocks most people now, it still makes me feel uncomfortable. It&#8217;s ambiguous&#8211;I don&#8217;t know how either party feels, and I feel strange for spying on them. I think it&#8217;s important to realize that while there was some reactionary response in the 60s to this work, that was partly because Kienholz&#8217;s brilliant work does in fact invoke strong (and often disturbing) emotional responses, even today.</p>
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